Imajica Gilroy was told she couldn't breastfeed at Parkside Pool in Cambridge as it was "unhygenic". For anyone in the area, there is a breastfeeding flash mob planned there Sat 17th August @ 1pm.
Manchester Aquatics Centre allegedly told Stephanie Wilby it was "indecent exposure", and Stephanie claims the staff likened it to someone urinating in the pool. Breastfeeding flash mob there planned Friday 16th @ 10am. Stephanie also claims staff shouted at her to stop immediately, causing a scene - but I don't want to dwell on that as I think it detracts from the real issue.
What's interesting about swimming pools is that unlike other venues, even pro breastfeeding mums often say if the rule is no eating this should apply to all.
So I wanted to reply to a few common comments :)
1. Breastmilk could get in the water.
If we're concerned about breastmilk getting in the water, all lactating mums should be stopped from swimming in case they leak. I'm also wondering why when breastfeeding we would expect milk to be pooling around the mother in the water, er no it's going into baby!
If we're concerned about breastmilk getting in the water, all lactating mums should be stopped from swimming in case they leak. I'm also wondering why when breastfeeding we would expect milk to be pooling around the mother in the water, er no it's going into baby!
b) Even if breastmilk gets into the water, it is antibacterial, antimicrobial and doesn't pose a health hazard.
Lots of things that do pose a health hazard end up in the water. It's rather ironic that Manchester Aquatics Centre allegedly likened it to someone urinating in the pool - because I'm sure plenty of toddlers have a sneaky pee in there, and have they ever tested for "leakage" in those without great pelvic floor muscles when doing the breaststroke? Perhaps they should ban them too! Sweat, urine, mucous, saliva, hair, dead skin and faecal matter - not to mention sun cream, perfume and cosmetics - are among the pollutants introduced by bathers into pools. Lordy a breastmilk bath is looking more desirable by the minute.
2. Baby could vomit after feeding.
This is kind of a futile argument with babies though given a) they can puke anytime, even an hour or two after a feed. b) If the mum is leaving the area to feed as expected and then returning with baby, he may still vomit. Some babies just don't posset, my first only ever did twice, both times after we had tried colief.
Those who have babies who are prone to refluxing copious amounts are hardly unlikely to breastfeed in the pool anyway, mums don't lose their brains when they get a baby - often the person most aware and conscious is the mum.
This is kind of a futile argument with babies though given a) they can puke anytime, even an hour or two after a feed. b) If the mum is leaving the area to feed as expected and then returning with baby, he may still vomit. Some babies just don't posset, my first only ever did twice, both times after we had tried colief.
Those who have babies who are prone to refluxing copious amounts are hardly unlikely to breastfeed in the pool anyway, mums don't lose their brains when they get a baby - often the person most aware and conscious is the mum.
Important point to note:
Swimming pools are chlorinated.
Swimming pools are chlorinated.
Swimming pools are chlorinated.
Swimming pools are chlorinated.
I feel a need to repeat this as any argument over "water contamination" is wiped out with this point.
Chlorine is known to kill almost all kinds of bacteria, as well as viruses and protozoa - hence why it's used in pools. When chlorine isn't used, the bacteria in pools is comparable to that of a toilet - without anyone breastfeeding.
Sorry but I'm frequently glad my eyes have an avert function when at the public baths, budgie smugglers anyone? Aside from this it breaks the law to ask a mother to stop breastfeeding on the grounds of decency.
7. If the rule is no eating, that means everyone.
This rule is clearly to avoid Big Mac and chips finding their way into the water, imagine if everyone took snacks! Babies sometimes need feeding several times in an hour, whereas adults can consider the fact they are going swimming and eat more in advance. They can also wait when hungry because they don't survive solely on a substance digested quickly and have bigger stomachs.
Furthermore the breast isn't just food, I think a lot of people still struggle to grasp that babies don't just seek the breast when hungry. They can do so for comfort, reassurance at a new situation (like swimming), or because they want to warm up if feeling chilly. Furthermore we know babies don't always transfer milk - so they may not in fact be "eating" in the pool at all, they could be sucking for comfort. Are pacifiers, a nipple replica also banned? What if they suck their own fingers? Is sucking mum's finger OK but not her nipple?
This rule is clearly to avoid Big Mac and chips finding their way into the water, imagine if everyone took snacks! Babies sometimes need feeding several times in an hour, whereas adults can consider the fact they are going swimming and eat more in advance. They can also wait when hungry because they don't survive solely on a substance digested quickly and have bigger stomachs.
Furthermore the breast isn't just food, I think a lot of people still struggle to grasp that babies don't just seek the breast when hungry. They can do so for comfort, reassurance at a new situation (like swimming), or because they want to warm up if feeling chilly. Furthermore we know babies don't always transfer milk - so they may not in fact be "eating" in the pool at all, they could be sucking for comfort. Are pacifiers, a nipple replica also banned? What if they suck their own fingers? Is sucking mum's finger OK but not her nipple?
8. I think the mum should have got out and done it in the changing rooms.
Why? It's not always convenient for mum to hot foot it off to the changing room, she may have an older child to supervise who cannot be left.
9. It's unhygienic for baby.
How? When attached to the breast the baby forms a seal, there is less likelihood of them ingesting water than when they're swimming in it. Mothers are also hardly likely to have their baby's face half in the water, don't believe me, you can see a great example here. Some baby swimming classes involve submerging both mouth and nose under water, yet I've never heard anyone express concern that is unhygienic.
If you think pool water is that gross despite the chlorine, perhaps better off not taking your baby at all. Ultimately it's the mother's choice whether she feels it's a hygiene risk to her baby or not?
10. Other babies have to wait so why should breastfed babies be any different!
Oh no, I would be quite happy for a mum to bottle feed her baby or use a pacifier in the pool too! Not suggesting certain babies get special treatment, all have the same needs whether met by breast or bottle; our society has been intolerant of babies and children for long enough.
Unlike no petting, bombing or ducking - I can't think of a single plausible, logical reason why a baby cannot feed in a pool. Nor has anyone else been able to offer one other than the rules say so.
Which tells me the rules need changing :)
With regard to Stephanie's case above, a spokeswoman for Serco said:
"We are fully supportive of mothers breastfeeding their child whilst in our centres. Serco’s operating practices are to encourage breastfeeding in a safe and comfortable environment for both the mother and child rather than it taking place in the swimming pool."
Serco are you seriously suggesting breastfeeding in the pool is more dangerous than a baby swimming in it? If so why? I also trust we can let mums choose to decide where they are most "comfortable"?
There is a petition here to ask Manchester Aquatics to review their policies
Councillor Rosa Battle, executive member for culture and leisure at Manchester council, said:
Why? It's not always convenient for mum to hot foot it off to the changing room, she may have an older child to supervise who cannot be left.
9. It's unhygienic for baby.
How? When attached to the breast the baby forms a seal, there is less likelihood of them ingesting water than when they're swimming in it. Mothers are also hardly likely to have their baby's face half in the water, don't believe me, you can see a great example here. Some baby swimming classes involve submerging both mouth and nose under water, yet I've never heard anyone express concern that is unhygienic.
If you think pool water is that gross despite the chlorine, perhaps better off not taking your baby at all. Ultimately it's the mother's choice whether she feels it's a hygiene risk to her baby or not?
10. Other babies have to wait so why should breastfed babies be any different!
Oh no, I would be quite happy for a mum to bottle feed her baby or use a pacifier in the pool too! Not suggesting certain babies get special treatment, all have the same needs whether met by breast or bottle; our society has been intolerant of babies and children for long enough.
Unlike no petting, bombing or ducking - I can't think of a single plausible, logical reason why a baby cannot feed in a pool. Nor has anyone else been able to offer one other than the rules say so.
Which tells me the rules need changing :)
With regard to Stephanie's case above, a spokeswoman for Serco said:
"We are fully supportive of mothers breastfeeding their child whilst in our centres. Serco’s operating practices are to encourage breastfeeding in a safe and comfortable environment for both the mother and child rather than it taking place in the swimming pool."
Serco are you seriously suggesting breastfeeding in the pool is more dangerous than a baby swimming in it? If so why? I also trust we can let mums choose to decide where they are most "comfortable"?
There is a petition here to ask Manchester Aquatics to review their policies
Councillor Rosa Battle, executive member for culture and leisure at Manchester council, said:
"We have asked the Manchester Sport and Leisure Trust and Serco to investigate this incident thoroughly and to take action immediately if it is established that any members of staff behaved inappropriately towards Stephanie. We have also asked that the Trust and Serco review their existing policies, to make sure that they reflect the law.".
Update:
"Lifeguards at Manchester Aquatics Centre told they CAN’T stop mums breastfeeding"
Update:
"Lifeguards at Manchester Aquatics Centre told they CAN’T stop mums breastfeeding"
"Now the M.E.N. has seen an internal memo sent to staff warning them not to discriminate against breastfeeding mums and warning ‘we must comply with the law’." - read more here